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by: Paul Krugman, New York Review of Books

What to do?
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    Volume 55, Number 20 · December 18, 2008

    What the world needs right now is a rescue operation. The global credit system is in a state of paralysis, and a global slump is building momentum as I write this. Reform of the weaknesses that made this crisis possible is essential, but it can wait a little while. First, we need to deal with the clear and present danger. To do this, policymakers around the world need to do two things: get credit flowing again and prop up spending.

    The first task is the harder of the two, but it must be done, and soon. Hardly a day goes by without news of some further disaster wreaked by the freezing up of credit. As I was writing this, for example, reports were coming in of the collapse of letters of credit, the key financing method for world trade. Suddenly, buyers of imports, especially in developing countries, can't carry through on their deals, and ships are standing idle: the Baltic Dry Index, a widely used measure of shipping costs, has fallen 89 percent this year.

    What lies behind the credit squeeze is the combination of reduced trust in and decimated capital at financial institutions. People and institutions, including the financial institutions, don't want to deal with anyone unless they have substantial capital to back up their promises, yet the crisis has depleted capital across the board.

    The obvious solution is to put in more capital. In fact, that's a standard response in financial crises. In 1933 the Roosevelt administration used the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to recapitalize banks by buying preferred stock - stock that had priority over common stock in terms of its claims on profits. When Sweden experienced a financial crisis in the early 1990s, the government stepped in and provided the banks with additional capital equal to 4 percent of the country's GDP - the equivalent of about $600 billion for the United States today - in return for a partial ownership. When Japan moved to rescue its banks in 1998, it purchased more than $500 billion in preferred stock, the equivalent relative to GDP of around a $2 trillion capital injection in the United States. In each case, the provision of capital helped restore the ability of banks to lend, and unfroze the credit markets.

    A financial rescue along similar lines is now underway in the United States and other advanced economies, although it was late in coming, thanks in part to the ideological tilt of the Bush administration. At first, after the fall of Lehman Brothers, the Treasury Department proposed buying up $700 billion in troubled assets from banks and other financial institutions. Yet it was never clear how this was supposed to help the situation. (If the Treasury paid market value, it would do little to help the banks' capital position, while if it paid above-market value it would stand accused of throwing taxpayers' money away.) Never mind: after dithering for three weeks, the United States followed the lead already set, first by Britain and then by continental European countries, and turned the plan into a recapitalization scheme.

    It seems doubtful, however, that this will be enough to turn things around, for at least three reasons. First, even if the full $700 billion is used for recapitalization (so far only a fraction has been committed), it will still be small, relative to GDP, compared with the Japanese bank bailout - and it's arguable that the severity of the financial crisis in the United States and Europe now rivals that of Japan. Second, it's still not clear how much of the bailout will reach the components of the shadow banking system - largely unregulated financial organizations including investment banks and hedge funds - that are at the core of the problem. Third, it's not clear whether banks will be willing to lend out the funds, as opposed to sitting on them (a problem encountered by the New Deal seventy-five years ago).

    My guess is that the recapitalization will eventually have to get bigger and broader, and that there will eventually have to be more assertion of government control - in effect, it will come closer to a full temporary nationalization of a significant part of the financial system. Just to be clear, this isn't a long-term goal, a matter of seizing the economy's commanding heights: finance should be reprivatized as soon as it's safe to do so, just as Sweden put banking back in the private sector after its big bailout in the early Nineties. But for now the important thing is to loosen up credit by any means at hand, without getting tied up in ideological knots. Nothing could be worse than failing to do what's necessary out of fear that acting to save the financial system is somehow "socialist."

    The same goes for another line of approach to resolving the credit crunch: getting the Federal Reserve, temporarily, into the business of lending directly to the nonfinancial sector. The Federal Reserve's willingness to buy commercial paper is a major step in this direction, but more will probably be necessary.

    All these actions should be coordinated with other advanced countries. The reason is the globalization of finance. Part of the payoff for US rescues of the financial system is that they help loosen up access to credit in Europe; part of the payoff to European rescue efforts is that they loosen up credit here. So everyone should be doing more or less the same thing; we're all in this together.

    And one more thing: the spread of the financial crisis to emerging markets makes a global rescue for developing countries part of the solution to the crisis. As with recapitalization, parts of this were already in place during the autumn: the International Monetary Fund was providing loans to countries with troubled economies like Ukraine, with less of the moralizing and demands for austerity that it engaged in during the Asian crisis of the 1990s. Meanwhile, the Fed provided swap lines to several emerging-market central banks, giving them the right to borrow dollars as needed. As with recapitalization, the efforts so far look as if they're in the right direction but too small, so more will be needed.

    Even if the rescue of the financial system starts to bring credit markets back to life, we'll still face a global slump that's gathering momentum. What should be done about that? The answer, almost surely, is good old Keynesian fiscal stimulus.

    Now, the United States tried a fiscal stimulus in early 2008; both the Bush administration and congressional Democrats touted it as a plan to "jump-start" the economy. The actual results were, however, disappointing, for two reasons. First, the stimulus was too small, accounting for only about 1 percent of GDP. The next one should be much bigger, say, as much as 4 percent of GDP. Second, most of the money in the first package took the form of tax rebates, many of which were saved rather than spent. The next plan should focus on sustaining and expanding government spending - sustaining it by providing aid to state and local governments, expanding it with spending on roads, bridges, and other forms of infrastructure.

    The usual objection to public spending as a form of economic stimulus is that it takes too long to get going - that by the time the boost to demand arrives, the slump is over. That doesn't seem to be a major worry now, however: it's very hard to see any quick economic recovery, unless some unexpected new bubble arises to replace the housing bubble. (A headline in the satirical newspaper The Onion captured the problem perfectly: "Recession-Plagued Nation Demands New Bubble to Invest In.") As long as public spending is pushed along with reasonable speed, it should arrive in plenty of time to help - and it has two great advantages over tax breaks. On one side, the money would actually be spent; on the other, something of value (e.g., bridges that don't fall down) would be created.

    Some readers may object that providing a fiscal stimulus through public works spending is what Japan did in the 1990s - and it is. Even in Japan, however, public spending probably prevented a weak economy from plunging into an actual depression. There are, moreover, reasons to believe that stimulus through public spending would work better in the United States, if done promptly, than it did in Japan. For one thing, we aren't yet stuck in the trap of deflationary expectations that Japan fell into after years of insufficiently forceful policies. And Japan waited far too long to recapitalize its banking system, a mistake we hopefully won't repeat.

    The point in all of this is to approach the current crisis in the spirit that we'll do whatever it takes to turn things around; if what has been done so far isn't enough, do more and do something different, until credit starts to flow and the real economy starts to recover.

    And once the recovery effort is well underway, it will be time to turn to prophylactic measures: reforming the system so that the crisis doesn't happen again.

    Financial Reform

    "We have magneto trouble," said John Maynard Keynes at the start of the Great Depression: most of the economic engine was in good shape, but a crucial component, the financial system, wasn't working. He also said this: "We have involved ourselves in a colossal muddle, having blundered in the control of a delicate machine, the working of which we do not understand." Both statements are as true now as they were then.

    How did this second great colossal muddle arise? In the aftermath of the Great Depression, we redesigned the machine so that we did understand it, well enough at any rate to avoid big disasters. Banks, the piece of the system that malfunctioned so badly in the 1930s, were placed under tight regulation and supported by a strong safety net. Meanwhile, international movements of capital, which played a disruptive role in the 1930s, were also limited. The financial system became a little boring but much safer.

    Then things got interesting and dangerous again. Growing international capital flows set the stage for devastating currency crises in the 1990s and for a globalized financial crisis in 2008. The growth of the shadow banking system, without any corresponding extension of regulation, set the stage for latter-day bank runs on a massive scale. These runs involved frantic mouse clicks rather than frantic mobs outside locked bank doors, but they were no less devastating.

    What we're going to have to do, clearly, is relearn the lessons our grandfathers were taught by the Great Depression. I won't try to lay out the details of a new regulatory regime, but the basic principle should be clear: anything that has to be rescued during a financial crisis, because it plays an essential role in the financial mechanism, should be regulated when there isn't a crisis so that it doesn't take excessive risks. Since the 1930s commercial banks have been required to have adequate capital, hold reserves of liquid assets that can be quickly converted into cash, and limit the types of investments they make, all in return for federal guarantees when things go wrong. Now that we've seen a wide range of non-bank institutions create what amounts to a banking crisis, comparable regulation has to be extended to a much larger part of the system.

    We're also going to have to think hard about how to deal with financial globalization. In the aftermath of the Asian crisis of the 1990s, there were some calls for long-term restrictions on international capital flows, not just temporary controls in times of crisis. For the most part these calls were rejected in favor of a strategy of building up large foreign exchange reserves that were supposed to stave off future crises. Now it seems that this strategy didn't work. For countries like Brazil and Korea, it must seem like a nightmare: after all that they've done, they're going through the 1990s crisis all over again. Exactly what form the next response should take isn't clear, but financial globalization has definitely turned out to be even more dangerous than we realized.

    The Power of Ideas

    As readers may have gathered, I believe not only that we're living in a new era of depression economics, but also that John Maynard Keynes - the economist who made sense of the Great Depression - is now more relevant than ever. Keynes concluded his masterwork, The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money, with a famous disquisition on the importance of economic ideas: "Soon or late, it is ideas, not vested interests, which are dangerous for good or evil."

    We can argue about whether that's always true, but in times like these, it definitely is. The quintessential economic sentence is supposed to be "There is no free lunch"; it says that there are limited resources, that to have more of one thing you must accept less of another, that there is no gain without pain. Depression economics, however, is the study of situations where there is a free lunch, if we can only figure out how to get our hands on it, because there are unemployed resources that could be put to work. The true scarcity in Keynes's world - and ours - was therefore not of resources, or even of virtue, but of understanding.

    We will not achieve the understanding we need, however, unless we are willing to think clearly about our problems and to follow those thoughts wherever they lead. Some people say that our economic problems are structural, with no quick cure available; but I believe that the only important structural obstacles to world prosperity are the obsolete doctrines that clutter the minds of men.

     - November 20, 2008

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Another problem with the

Another problem with the bailout baloney is the skewing of competition. It i fundamentally unjust for government to favor some banks or businesses over others. It destroys the potential effectiveness of competition, while continuing a competitive market for the vast majority of businesses

Sweden and Japan had foreign

Sweden and Japan had foreign currency reserves(USD) which they used. All the US has now are red-hot presses. No nation is buying more US debt. Other holders of USD are more likely to buy your assets when said presses melt-down.

Ecological Economics

Ecological Economics questions the wisdom of stimulus used to expand economic output. Yes, it is wise to promote green job creation and increased emphasis on education and health, still, the unresolved question remains how to reduce total economic activity and increase distributive justice in the present and between the present and future. The route to a sustainable world culture is marked by clear signposts that indicate reductions in pollution and increases in life force total and diversity. Cordially, Garrett

News from the future? If you

News from the future? If you really have access to stories from 18 Dec 2008, could we please have a few articles from the sporting pages? A few dead-cert racing results would do much to lift the economic gloom for TO Readers.

I think the comments are

I think the comments are most revealing. Now if you would all politely listen to one another, weigh each others ideas fairly, then discuss them without rancor, we might develop some interesting new ways of behaving as a society. Unplugging from the system and turning back the clock to pre-Industrial Revolution times isn't practical and no one wants to live in a Mad Max world, but, I think there are some merits to those thoughts. Population reduction may sound horrific, but, common sense tells us that less human activities relieves pressure on the environment as a whole. The Great Depression was horrible, but, from that came many creative ideas and innovations. Our glass may actually be half full and perhaps some self-examination and criticism is in order. Put the cell phone down and get some face to face discussions going and stay in constant contact with your legislative bodies. You can have an impact, but, you'll have to actually be seen in public to get any notice. I'm surprised there weren't more public pickets in front of the nation's financial institutions and federal buildings this fall! The Net may allow instant communications, but, humans are still pretty primitive and need to actually "see" the actions of others to get motivated. Start a Salon at the neighborhood coffee shop and organize! Start a www.greendrinks.org in your town! You might be a Hillary Hater, but, it does take a village or a community effort to raise the civilization to a sustainable level.

Like so many well trained

Like so many well trained in-the-box economicsts, whether of the left end or right end of the box (or right or far right, depending on your POV) - he seems to fail to grasp that the very SOURCE of the money is itself the problem, and until something is done about this - something very serious like eradicating it altogether - the problems will prevail, as they have been doing for the last few hundred years of the so-called 'business cycle' of boom and bust, or bubble and bust, call it what you will. As long as private banks are creating our money for private profit, and charging interest on that money, all the problems we are experiencing are inevitable. The only solution is democratically controlled, debt-free money. No, no, not like the current 'faux-democracies', which are ruled by the rich for their own benefit, but 'real' democracies, ruled by We the People for OUR interests. More here - Banketeering http://www.rudemacedon.ca/banketeering.html .

Reset To Zero (RTZ) Crushed

Reset To Zero (RTZ) Crushed by debt. Its only paper, so do what has been done in the past- forgive it all. All mortgages, vehicle loans, credit card debt, payroll loans, commercial paper, etc. gone. Consumers are wealthy again. Banks have capital cuz we temporarily relieve them of financial ratios due to forgiven debt. Oh, but the poor shareholders. No, no, now they own their homes outright, their cars, and their credit cards have zero balances. McCain owns his 10 houses free and clear, plus any yacht and/or jets he and his wife own. Would the wealthy rather have their hard assets free and clear and the companies in which they own stock free of LBO debt? Give the companies a chance to start over just like the consumer. What happens when your computer malfunctions? You reboot the system. Reset to zero.

If confidence is at the

If confidence is at the heart of the problem then meaningful "reform of the weaknesses that made this problem possible" HAS TO BE part of the immediate short term rescue strategy. Without a belief that the same mistakes are not still being made (as we write), the wheels of the system will continue to grind down. I'm a Paul Krugman fan, but why does he accept the argument that the fix can/should be done in two parts?

"What lies behind the credit

"What lies behind the credit squeeze is the combination of reduced trust... The obvious solution is to put in more capital." So the bank robbers and the Ponzi schemers no longer 'trust' each other. Huh, go figure. And the answer is, er, give them both more taxpayer money, because that will get them to stop robbing banks and creating new Ponzi schemes. PK is right - I clearly suffer from a lack of understanding, cause that plan doesn't sound like it'll work out too well.

Rebuilding roads and bridges

Rebuilding roads and bridges will not help, the population of people that are here illegally have taken over the construction industry. They pay less and sometimes no taxes, plus they send money home to their families in the country they are from. That is money not spent here and which will not stimulate the economy here. Tax rebate checks will not work either even if the money is spent rather than saved. Most goods are now made in countries like China so when the consumer goes to the store and makes a purchase of a material good, take your pick here, the money spent goes to stimulate the economy of the country where the good is made. The only real solution is to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., and the creation of good paying jobs in that sector which has a multiplier effect, as well as others that provide disposable income. Then we will go back to normal business cycles where yes, we will have recessions, but fiscal stimulus will work because when applied and the consumer spends it puts people back to work in our own economy.

As one who has been around

As one who has been around awhile, I would like to say this. If you want people to save, you have to pay them enough interest to make it worthwhile. If you want pensions to be healthy, you don't say they are over funded and take the money to finance a debt buyout. I hate the word leveraged, it is a con. If you let people put money in a IRA, let them take it out when they are old without paying taxes. They need it to pay their bills. Quit building McMansions, they make no sense. Limit CEO pay to the world average. Quit putting people in jail for stupid things, if they are not violent, or it is not a serious crime,no one should serve more than 30 days as it serves no purpose. I could go on and on, but what I am saying is the system needs to be totally changed, it is broken.

Perhaps some of these

Perhaps some of these pundits need to learn the meaning of exponential growth, and how that pertains to living on a world which is finite in size. Seventy percent of the large fish species fished out, more than half the old growth timber on the N. American continent gone, pretty soon the first [easy] half of the oil will have been used, most of our topsoil used up.... Credit keeps this thing growing, we need to find a comfortable, stable, life or there won't be too many more generation of us crazed humans.

Bail out the idiots that

Bail out the idiots that caused this mess? Why on Earth? And to keep the Federal Reserve, which made this crisis possible? Come on. How stupid do you think we ALL are? Some of us realize that this is just a game to those that have nothing better to do but consolidate power. Are our politicians that stupid, or just that corrupt? When is this gov't going to own up to their oath - BY the people, FOR the people. They are lucky, EXTREMELY lucky, that the citizens of this country are too stupid too realize that they are being F*&^%$#.

Could be that the nature of

Could be that the nature of our money system is the central fault, and that none of the remedies described here can do much good. We know that money is a social creation, not a gift from heaven. And its creation can be designed for socially useful purpose, not just to enrich its creators. Presently money is created as debt, by banks leveraging loans, an unsocial (anti?) purpose carrying a universal burden of interest. It can just as well be created by public agencies, with a means and purpose of paying directly for social benefits such as infrastructure and education, to be issued for performance by service providers, and without the burden of cash repayment with interest, and without the burden of taxes to repay the costs! Bankers and their supporters oppose and obstruct these methods of creating money by extending fear of inflation. But in fact they fear losing their monopoly on money creation. Our present system nominates them to create money out of nothing with minimal controls, and as we have seen, with great risk to the economy and to all their beloved “market forces.” And it leaves the rest of us permanently in hock to their interest charges and to the tax burden required of us by the government to pay for its services. The time is urgent. Our best known experts, such as Prof Krugman & Prof Summers, appear to have published nothing on this subject. It seems nearly all public and academic discourse has been suppressed. Perhaps a forum like this one can awaken attention. For those interested in follow up, there’s much to be read on sites like webofdebt.com and its links, and google listings like open-source money. There was a related historical movement of Social Credit, but its name was fouled by supporters from right wing political movements, and limited objectives.

The 7.4 trillion that the

The 7.4 trillion that the fed has promised to hand out to the elite is to establish permanent feudalism. If it were divided up evenly by 300,000 Americans, it would come too 250,000 dollars EACH. The fed is out to end America. It should be abolished, and all of it's money canceled.

Chris Bourne's incredulity

Chris Bourne's incredulity that Truthout would stoop to publishing an article by known right-wing zealot Paul Krugman (so he must imagine) could be explained in the following way: Truthout it seems also supports the rights of working people to a roof and food. All around me people are losing their jobs, with little or no hope of finding new ones in a failing economy which will take years to repair--once we agree on a process. Those of us who still have jobs are starting to chip in to feed and clothe the families of those who don't. So we have less money to save. No one I know over the age of 50 can any longer imagine retiring at 65--I'm a professor and can no longer see it even at 70, despite a degenerative disease. Perhaps Paul Krugman imagines that a functioning economy would provide work and incomes, not to mention tax dollars for things like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security Retirement accounts? And you know, trains and subways require bridges as well. Or do you think we should stay home and grow beans and rice in our windowboxes?

Money is an idea. Whether

Money is an idea. Whether backed by gold, silver, DC comic books or my Aunt Ruth's apple pie, money is an idea. Bad ideas got us here; great ideas can get us out of here. Right? -- How about exploring the very idea "consumption"? Consumer societies consume what? The Earth! What's so wrong with a service economy? A service economy services what? People? Isn't that the point of economics after all? The greatest good for the greatest number of people -- Let's invest in service. Let's pay, with tax money, for a personal aide for every elderly person in this country; someone to help with the cleaning and preparing food and walks in the park and what not. The money's only an idea and better spent on the afore-mentioned Aunt Ruth than in building another piece of corporate crap that will only end up in a land-fill anyway. -- How about paying for hundreds of thousands of nurses? Or millions of educated school aides? If we reduced the student to adult ratio in our public schools to 5 or 6 to one, don't you think magic might happen? Or free public performances in all our parks, hospitals and nursing homes? Or helping the 20 million illiterate Americans learn to read. Frankly, I don't see why a decently educated adult couldn't work one on one with an illiterate adult without much in the way of training. -- All these ideas are aimed at straightening the only real infrastructure that matters: the lives of our citizens. Improve them and Wall Street? Blah on Wall Street - people count - bankers don't.

Harvad and Yale have not

Harvad and Yale have not done us any favors. Seems like all they teach is the money-making machine that rewards their former students. The Clinton and Bush Machine that gave us The New world Order and Nafta, has made the Clintons and the Bushees and all their apostles mighty rich and has broken the backs of the working classes. Now we are being told tha the same crowd with solve the problem by appointing them as the new saviors. We need more informed activists. Ralph Nader has failed to educate the public in his quest for the presidency by telling us that our leadership has become Corporate Slaves did not do it. We need names and places. It's time to educate the grammar and highs schools with the truth. We cannot depend on the Ivy league to do it..

What if we realized that we

What if we realized that we do not need a cell phone and video game for every school kid? What if we had just one TV in each home? What if we helped our children with their homework? What if we read more in places like Truthout, and less of the TV news pap? What if we cared more about our neighbor's well being than a celebrities latest fiascos? What if we started taking care of our own health, instead of wanting a doctor to give us a magic pill? Oh, never mind, you are too busy.

REMEMBER US SAVINGS BONDS?

REMEMBER US SAVINGS BONDS? Not only does this invest in America now for the future but how about instead of laying out massive cash bonuses to the clowns that "cooked" up thisreal estate swindle ponzi scheme issue special series bonds which can be cashed out after 36 months as their bonuses BUT these funds earn NO RETURN during this period for them. Rather these bonds earn petro-pharma profit rates of interest that is directly applied to wiping bad mortgages off the books the incentive to hold these specific CEO bonds to maturity would be half life acceleration ie 10 year bonds mature in 5 while basing interest on the housing market simply put if they allow home prices to drop the predicted 33% they receive 66 cents on the dollar value issued like Powell said about Iraq being "Pottery Barn" YOU BROKE IT YOU BOUGHT IT!

Infrastructure is not a

Infrastructure is not a magic word. Building more bridges so that you can have more car traffic across them will not help anything if a goal is to use energy more reasonably. Improving the health of the soil would be an improvement many could get behind. Doing this would require taking on powerful industries who seem determined to destroy the soil so they can sell more stuff. Floating more money on the surface, which is what seems to happen if you give it to those already wealthy, say, banks and local government, does not seem like a remedy either. The banks and credit unions who were in good shape are being punished when money is given to their competitors. It may also be tough for them to lend now because people who could borrow are reticent. These are issues I don't see dealt with by an argument to just get money out there. Maybe I am missing something.

I am curious if others are

I am curious if others are aware of Steven Zarlenga's proposal for monetary reform and if so, what are your opinions.

It appears that Krugman's

It appears that Krugman's analysis is unable to penetrate to a sufficient degree that it might consider FIRING the Federal Reserve and begin printing our own money directly and disbanding the incredibly dishonest and manipulative IMF, that has duped country after country with lending schemes.

The Neo-Feudalists in power

The Neo-Feudalists in power do not want to "save the economy". Their primary goal is world population reduction.

I have two questions for Mr

I have two questions for Mr Krugman. Wouldn't it be a good idea for government infrastructure spending to be directed primarily at alternative energy and updated our transportation system such as recreating passenger rail system to get us away from the waste and inefficiency of more highways and airports? Wouldn't this add to the capital base of the country, decrease wealth transfer to foreign nations to buy oil, and increase productivity? This would seem to accomplish both economic, environmental, and national security goals. It also seems to me that this has to be done by public investment because the deflation in energy prices is presently scaring away private investment. Secondly, a previous author brings up the problem of the Chinese and other nations with hard currency reserves financing our spending by purchasing more US securities. The alternative is "printing money". Would the obvious inflationary threat of this tactic be alleviated by the increased productivity gained by the type of public investment I mentioned earlier??

Stop Spending! Krugman is

Stop Spending! Krugman is another super-capitalist! Relentless consumption of earth resources fueled by debt borrowing is destroying the earth and doesn't even work to ensure human social order. Until humans stop believing the lie that only expanding consumption can bring happiness, we will continue to have economic nightmares, environmental destruction, and ideological insanity from all sides of the political spectrum. Humans are too good at killing, consuming, polluting and breeding. We need to scale down our toys, kids, and destruction, and get create a world not based on consumption and greed..

"...to follow those thoughts

"...to follow those thoughts wherever they lead. Some people say that our economic problems are structural, with no quick cure available; but I believe that the only important structural obstacles to world prosperity are the obsolete doctrines that clutter the minds of men. " The impetus of inertia is similar to the "bystander effect" Everyone is in a frozen moment when faced with a life threatening situation until someone breaks the moment with right action and motivates others into action as well. I think that it will take very aggressive action on the part of government Including nationalizing the auto makers to make wind turbines solar panel electric cars and hybrids.this could follow the same protocol that FDR used. part can be made in the "Rust Belt" and shipped by train all over the US to every state these assembly and installation can go to replace coal fire plants, while stimulus packages can go to co-operative employee own retrofit for energy and water. One Coal fire plant take 1600 to 2000 turbines. back by natural gas to level out the base load it is a 'no-brainer' to free up much needed water resources and implement organic agricultural practices will begin to stimulate the economy and provide the transformation needed. Clutter minds is code for entrenched interests and political elites trying to make sure they will not have to pay all those taxes. and then there is the corrupt congress and corporate governance and political clout. this is the one reason nothing can work in Washington DC. it is why health care , global warming and education and economy cannot be address effectively. Obama needs to keep is base active so that he can call on that to activate when he needs to pressure congress. Let's see how he can manage the balancing act.

This crisis like the S&L,

This crisis like the S&L, dot com,1907, etc is not a misstep it is a concocted scam a planned looting of the common wealth. Those in charge are liars, theives, and murderers. Capitalism is Socialism for the select and disguised slavery for the rest of us. All of us should pull our interests from "the system" and put our efforts in local devlopment and governance. To give our attention to the gangsters only encourages them

Is t top down fixing that we

Is t top down fixing that we need, or should it be "bottom up" changes. I suggest adding to the minimum wage and adding a cost of living index to it nationally. These people will have more money - and more security for the future. And they will spend it. It's like priming the pump. The pump of consumerism needs priming. Credit granters do not give credit to the poor or unimployed.

We are all (world wide)

We are all (world wide) looking for 'free lunch'. The fact that ,in Integrity, there is none, has never deterred those in whom Integrity takes second fiddle, which is most humans ,and nearly all politicians and Industrial Complex 'success stories'. Waging War (and then 'rebuilding' your victims' decimated Nation) as a means to economic 'progress' is as sick as Growth Model Keynesian Economics gets. Regrettably, we in the US have 'Been There' for some time. With the clueless 'Public at Large', and the newly 'Incorporated Media', Public Opinion Control, and Real News, have taken on sophisticated dimensions in corruption. Kept 'in line', both (the Public and the 'Media') victims of deception and deceivers, we All carry on, wondering 'what went wrong?'. 'Human Motive' is the answer, and the cause of all the Mahem. 'System changes' are awaiting re-corruption by those of Power who know an opportunity when they see one, and stand Ready to influence others to Maintain Status-Quo within any new leadership/system. If we find Our Integrity, we will then create the leadership, system and Policies to resolve our (morally based) dilemma.

Well kind of blows right out

Well kind of blows right out of the water all the myths you have been living with your whole life like if you work hard you will have some sense of security. All this economic mumbo jumbo is over my head but I will say this - the average person is pretty powerless in guaranteeing anything so if this will work lets hope that these policies are used to prevent serious catastrophes that impact almost everyone.

We must be careful not to

We must be careful not to subscribe to what I see as the "lights and mirrors" schools of economics. These economic stimulus packages are using money that we don't have to prop up an industry that squandered the money that we did have. Credit is not wealth. Credit is debt! The idea of using labor to repair and create infrastructure is much more sensible. Other positive economic stimuli would be paying people to mentor children who are struggling, and to support the families of those children. We need to help families in general. Parents work two jobs, to the detriment of their children. Single parents struggle with child care. We need to create value and positive outcomes, not just facilitate debt. Education and jobs that provide a real living and comprehensive medical benefits will lead to a healthy economy. Those individuals and companies that pushed for deregulation (and the officials which allowed it) are vampires. Keeping those vampires alive by feeding them more cash at the expense of our long-term economic security is just making it possible for them to dine on our blood AGAIN. Dressing up this unhealthy economy in designer clothes is like putting makeup on a corpse - it won't bring the dead back to life.

I recommend reading the

I recommend reading the Schumacher lecture by Susan George. She proposes a Keynesian ecoligical programme to tackle our current crises: the financial, the climate and foodcrisis. After analysing how we got into this mess in the first place,she proposes concrete measures to get the economy rolling again. She pleads for broad alliances: no single interest group can solve the problem that concerns it most.

Not being a brilliant

Not being a brilliant economist and just a lowly business owner like me, may actually help in applying some common sense. First we need to acknowledge that much of what is happening in the markets now is extremist right wing turkeys coming to roost and pooping on our heads. We don't need extremist policies now to fix our financial woes, but level headed intelligent and competent leaders who can listen and understand. Applying Keynesian economics seems to make the most sense now and just accepting the whines about "Socialism". We are mostly in a crisis of confidence by virtue of having no faith in our current government to solve or manage anything. Thank gods for 11/5/08 and 1/20/09 that, it appears we can once again have intelligent, capable, and open leaders . I am very optimistic that is the case and it appears they are heeding sounder advise such as this article by Krugman. I am also optimistic that next year will be far better.

Paul Krugman is one of the

Paul Krugman is one of the of the most accessible minds dealing in economics today. He knows how to build a sane platform under the insane reactions of men. Copy this article. Then send it to your Senators and Representatives. We can't wait for Bush to leave office to get our financial house in order. We have to get Congress moving NOW.

I find it absolutely

I find it absolutely fascinating that this article appears on Truthout. On the one hand, Truthout would seem to support environmental sustainability. Is the Credit Crunch not a good solution to the environmental calamity we are facing? Is not reduced consumer spending exactly what we need to reduce global consumption and therefore global warming? If importers can't get credit notes to buy cheap Chinese goods (for example) and that means less "stuff" (which we don't really need anyway) is shipped needlessly across our seas, then I for one find that a blessing. In my view, its not more financial credit and therefore more growth that's required. We need less growth, much less. Probably of the levels prior to the Industrial Revolution if we are to turn back global warming and the denegration of our natural ecosystems which are meant to sustain us all. Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else out there whose prepared to "bite the bullet" and fine sustainable solutions that really work? Chris Bourne Openhand Foundation http://www.openhandweb.org

how about planting gardens

how about planting gardens and trees? how about learning to take care of the earth and our fellow human being? how about thinking of the next generation and the one after that? the state of men analyzed to death (see above) is not only a system ready for collapse, it's deadening the vision of what truly needs to be done. i am not going along with the armaggedon plans nor the supposed belief that we need to continue to prop up a system built on corporate privilege and continued rape of the planet and poor people. don't believe it. go out and plant. feed the homeless and the birds. pray.

I wish Professor Krugman

I wish Professor Krugman would explain exactly how America will be able to keep selling its Treasury Bonds to sustain all the borrowing necesssary to fund the programs he advocates. At some point, not even China will be able to do enough, even if it wanted to, since it has begun vast spending projects at home to stimulate its own economy. If there is an unsufficient market for the Treasury bonds, than America will simply be printing money, which will, in the end, cause an inflation crisis of monumental proportions. And how will America ever be able to pay down the debt of trillions and trillions of dollars? So much money will be required to finance the interest on the debt that little will be left for anything else.

Capitalism is the problem,

Capitalism is the problem, Mr Krugman. Banks did a poor job, and saving them should not be our goal. The goal is to get money into the peoples' hands and end the private tyrannies' control over the peoples' money. If the banks won't do it, then get rid of them. Stop the Fed's lending to the US at interest. Instead of focusing on the 700 billion lb gorilla, Mr Krugman proposes instead means to revive a corpse that doesn't know it's dead. Adam Smith knew Capitalism was a problem more than 200 years ago and said so. Krugman knows it and says nothing. It's the fact that there's the boom and bust. The fact that it's a system based on exploitation. The fact that we let those who not only profit from it escape responsibility, but then they cannot run it without a hand-out, a "re-capitalization" under which they decide the terms under which they will accept the public gift, is ludicrous and an outrage. The fact of manufactured crisis and created shortages, corporate ownership of the media and Congress, secretive deliberations... These facts are not the problem, but the effects and symptoms of the cancer of Capitalism. Banker and industrialist control is a problem. The fact that these private tyrannies called corporations are getting our money at sweetheart rates, the very same corporations that did such a bang-up job the first go-round, the very same who are cutting the remainder of the jobs they couldn't first ship overseas, escape Mr Krugman's notice. These self-same bankers who learned nothing from the Great Depression except that they liked it better when the people would work for pennies... we should now trust them? And weren't we told that the first 700 billion corporate welfare bail-out was to loosen credit? Lies! Capitalism is a criminal enterprise, and Krugman one of its cheerleaders and apologists. So sad that even with, or perhaps because of, that Nobel prize, Mr Krugman cannot escape from his own ideological bubble.

Somehow the Rotary Club's

Somehow the Rotary Club's Four Way Test has to come into both the public and private sectors consciousness, i.e., .............1) Is it the truth? 2) Is it fair to all concerned? 3) Will it build goodwill and better friendship? 4) Will it be beneficial to all concerned? Think of the vast amount of money that could have been saved if only something so simple would have been heeded by all.

FOXES IN THE HEN HOUSE! how

FOXES IN THE HEN HOUSE! how can this be turned around when the people that are coming in on a shiny white horse to save the day. just changed horses, the riders are the same. geithner, summers, volcker. they are complicit in this manufactured financial meltdown. consolidate, nationalize, liquidation of hard assets, default, new currency. this is what they have in mind. the whole worlds financial system is now being rewritten. our system is based on DEBT, NOT SAVINGS. it was destined to fail.

Its not that we need to

Its not that we need to rescue and bail out the corporations that failed, but to give money to people who have a clear vision at success in a new business model. Simply bailing out the failing businesses will only restart the inevitable, give the money to those with new ideas and new ways to create worthwhile jobs that pay for once. How we lived in the 20th century is at its end and we're holding on for no clear reason, so let the big companies fail and let new ones start anew. It will create new jobs and let others have a chance for success once again. Plus it be nice to see former CEOs begging for jobs at entry level positions of the new businesses.